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Wyatt Smith – The Power of Games in Business | RILLA LABS Ep. 9

📅 August 14, 2024 ⏱️ 1:28:22 🎤 Wyatt Smith

Chapters

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  • 0:00
    Dopamine, tech, and the trades
  • 3:20
    From Uber to building for tradespeople
  • 9:53
    Positive behavior narration
  • 13:09
    The trades labor shortage
  • 18:03
    Gamifying service and the leaderboard
  • 22:56
    The engagement flywheel
  • 29:21
    The revenue math of engagement
  • 34:12
    Flow: the psychology of optimal experience
  • 37:27
    Rewards vs. autonomy and trust
  • 55:27
    Why real-economy tech wins
  • 1:16:42
    Robots, AI, and the augmented tradesperson

Speakers

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Wyatt Smith
Founder & CEO, UpSmith

Key Takeaways

Wyatt Smith left Uber to build UpSmith, applying the dopamine and gamification playbook of consumer tech to the skilled trades.

Positive behavior narration — celebrating and praising good work in real time — drives performance the same way it shapes a toddler learning a task or an athlete building a habit.

Gamifying daily work with leaderboards, points, and recognition turns mundane tasks into something people care about, pushing retention to 80% or higher.

Engagement compounds into a flywheel: a better service experience creates a better financial outcome, which rewards the rep, which fuels more momentum.

The revenue math is stark — an extra $100 per lead across 1,000 leads a month is $100,000 in additional monthly revenue.

The trades face a million-person labor shortage; making the work rewarding and offering a debt-free alternative to a four-year degree is part of the fix.

Rewards should reinforce autonomy and mastery (flow), not signal distrust — intrinsic motivation matters as much as the prize itself.

AI and robots will augment tradespeople, not replace them; the physical, judgment-heavy work of a plumber becomes even more valuable per hour.

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