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How Outback Deck Scaled to $10M and Built DeckMetriX Software | F&D Mastery Podcast #68

📅 November 5, 2025 ⏱️ 1:07:09 🎤 Brian Miller, John, Alex Danner

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  • 0:00
    Intro & welcome Brian and John
  • 2:11
    Brian's story: from remodeling to decks in 2008
  • 6:02
    John's path into construction & the downturn
  • 8:14
    Joining forces & building the system
  • 9:56
    Growth, work-life balance & COVID's shift
  • 11:03
    The original Excel pricing tool (2012)
  • 13:50
    Outgrowing the spreadsheet, building software
  • 14:57
    The MVP & moving to a one-step process
  • 17:11
    Version two: sketching, financing & scaling sales
  • 19:57
    Where DeckMetrics fits in the workflow
  • 21:38
    Pricing accuracy vs. square-foot estimating
  • 23:50
    Sketch, price & bill of materials in minutes
  • 26:31
    Implementation: loading materials & labor
  • 32:00
    Capturing forgotten costs & logistics
  • 38:00
    How the back-end algorithms protect margin
  • 40:47
    1% accuracy & peace of mind
  • 42:27
    Built for deck builders; porch workarounds
  • 46:16
    Margin control & selling more profitably
  • 49:03
    Why the one-call close boosts sales
  • 53:24
    Changed buyer habits & giving price on-site
  • 1:00:31
    It's just a tool; demo, gift & closing

Speakers

B
Brian Miller
Co-Founder, Outback Deck; Founder, DeckMetrics
J
John
Co-Founder, Outback Deck (Operations & Finance)
A
Alex Danner
Host; Founder, Fence and Deck Marketers

Key Takeaways

Brian Miller pivoted a collapsing Atlanta remodeling firm into a deck business during the 2008 downturn by knocking doors and doing recoats and repairs, which quickly revealed decking as an exceptional opportunity that became Outback Deck.

Brian and John, former competitors, joined forces after sharing office space, combining Brian's sales-and-marketing strength with John's operations-and-finance focus, and spent five years documenting systems while protecting work-life balance (taking 10-12 weeks off a year).

The DeckMetrics software grew out of an Excel pricing sheet Brian first built around 2012 with a software-savvy client, later hardened by a PhD mathematician into a 47-page algorithm document, and finally rebuilt into cloud software about 18 months ago because a spreadsheet couldn't scale across eight salespeople.

DeckMetrics lets a contractor sketch the deck, pick good/better/best decking and rail products, and generate an accurate price plus monthly-payment options in under three minutes at the kitchen table, then produce a bill of materials in about 1.5 seconds and a signed proposal in roughly three minutes, all tablet-first.

Moving from a two-step 'come back and present' model to a same-day one-sit close was a painful 18-month transition (they lost salespeople) but became essential after COVID, when almost no homeowners wanted a second visit and instant-gratification buying habits took hold.

The tool bakes in commonly-forgotten cost variables (auto-adding an extra dumpster above 450 square feet, per-municipality permit costs, extra footings, drawings, engineering) so estimates stay accurate; Outback's bill-of-materials accuracy is now within 1%, protecting margin because markup/margin controls apply across labor, materials, and logistics.

Financing integration pushed 85% of Outback jobs to financed projects with $7,000-$10,000 higher tickets, and standardizing screen-porch designs inside the tool added about 40 sold jobs and roughly $2.5M of new revenue in nine months; every DeckMetrics subscription includes free Contractor Classroom coaching.

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