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Ep 134. How We Approach Commercial Bids and Government Cheese.

⏱️ 1:15:52 🎤 Jason Lee, Jordan Upcavage
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Ep 134. How We Approach Commercial Bids and Government Cheese.
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  • 0:00
    Welcome and Introductions
    Jason and Jordan kick off the episode, sharing a lighthearted moment about recording takes and catching up.
  • 0:26
    Dollywood Experience
    Jordan recounts his recent trip to Dollywood, praising its cleanliness and landscaping, and shares a humorous story about his son.
  • 1:22
    Granum & SingleOps Partnership
    The hosts announce their new partnership with Granum and SingleOps to host a monthly webinar series for tree care business owners, detailing the topics and schedule.
  • 3:24
    Commercial Maintenance Bidding
    Jason discusses the current commercial maintenance bidding season, emphasizing the importance of communication and quality work to retain clients amidst rising prices.
  • 4:37
    Heat and Crew Management
    Jordan shares challenges with heat-related illness among his crew and strategies for hydration and staffing, including hiring family members of current employees.
  • 8:26
    Large Commercial Bids
    Jordan details a complex $100,000 government bid for tree work, breaking down the estimation process, subcontractor management, and unforeseen costs.
  • 39:11
    Production Rate Estimating
    Jason and Jordan elaborate on their distinct estimating methods: Jordan uses daily rate worksheets, while Jason applies production rates for maintenance and installation, highlighting the importance of accounting for all costs including procurement and mobilization.
  • 51:12
    Government Bid Strategy
    Jordan explains his approach to a government bid, including meticulous paperwork, subcontractor coordination, and strategic pricing to ensure profitability and mitigate risks, even if it means not being the lowest bid.
  • 58:00
    Government Bid Learnings
    Jason shares his experiences with government bids, emphasizing the value of mandatory bid meetings and the surprising outcomes of qualification processes, while questioning low-ball bids for maintenance work.

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Jason Lee
Host
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Jordan Upcavage
Host

Key Takeaways

Prioritize excellent communication and quality work with current clients during budget season to maintain contract retention amidst rising prices.

Implement regular, focused training sessions for your crew, like bi-weekly breakfasts, to boost skills (e.g., certifications, plant ID) and foster team cohesion.

Invest in crew well-being, especially in extreme weather, by providing hydration solutions (e.g., electrolyte popsicles, drink packets) and considering additional staffing to mitigate fatigue and heat-related issues.

Utilize 'daily rate worksheets' or production rate estimating to accurately calculate job costs, incorporating equipment, labor burden, overhead recovery, and a realistic profit margin.

Thoroughly vet all aspects of large bids, including potential unforeseen costs (e.g., permits, specific site access challenges, waste disposal), and include a 'fudge factor' or buffer in your pricing.

When engaging subcontractors for specialized tasks (e.g., MOT permits, herbicide application), factor in their costs and potential markups, and ensure all required paperwork for them is meticulously completed.

For government bids, carefully review all requirements, prepare extensive documentation (licenses, safety manuals, equipment lists, references), and strategically price to ensure profitability even if not the absolute lowest bid.

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