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Chuck Thokey – From Top Rep to Top Trainer | RILLA LABS Ep. 8

📅 July 17, 2024 ⏱️ 1:59:59 🎤 Chuck Thokey

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  • 0:00
    Intro: from top rep to top trainer
  • 4:54
    Rilla Labs' sales-obsessed lane
  • 9:52
    From aerospace engineer to home services
  • 19:46
    Earning respect at Bath Fitter
  • 31:13
    Why coaching beats telling
  • 49:29
    Building sales rigor in service businesses
  • 1:07:39
    Using Rilla to diagnose closing problems
  • 1:14:10
    The power of ride-alongs and accountability
  • 1:32:13
    Proactive vs reactive sales management
  • 1:51:48
    Founding Top Rep and what's next

Speakers

Chuck Thokey
Chuck Thokey
Founder & Sales Trainer, Top Rep (former VP of Sales, Bath Fitter)

Key Takeaways

Chuck Thokey went from being the youngest aerospace engineer in the country to a top-performing sales rep at Bath Fitter, and now runs Top Rep, a sales coaching company for the trades.

Great coaching pulls answers out of reps with open-ended questions rather than telling them what to do — most 'coaching' is really just talking at people 95% of the time.

Ride-alongs are the single highest-leverage coaching tool. Chuck does roughly 12 a day, seven days a week, to hold reps accountable and see what's really happening in the home.

A sales process is a hypothesis you continually refine; raw talent alone caps how far a company can scale, so you have to systematize what your best people do.

Sales managers should be proactive (setting the tone and winning) not reactive (chasing fires). The daily 'Power Hour' sets the tempo for the entire organization.

Top managers know their numbers cold — average ticket, revenue per lead, net close rate — and use tools like Rilla to pinpoint exactly where a rep's closing problem is.

Underperformance almost always traces back to poor training, not the rep. Accountability plus real coaching (not just firing) reliably lifts close rates 10-20%.

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