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From Basements to Deck Builds: Josh Steinman’s Growth Journey | F&D Mastery Podcast #62

📅 May 9, 2025 ⏱️ 43:57 🎤 Josh Steinman, Alex Danner

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  • 0:00
    Intro: Josh Steinman of EJS Deck & Home Solutions
  • 2:14
    Starting during COVID: basements, a baby, and getting real
  • 5:36
    From basements to decks and rebranding around outdoor living
  • 8:57
    Getting off the tools: 'who not how' and resetting the crew
  • 11:42
    Why hiring friends didn't work
  • 13:52
    Building two in-house crews and specializing them
  • 16:36
    Turning it off at home: venting to be a present dad
  • 19:51
    Delegating the time drains: a floating materials runner
  • 23:10
    Building SOPs and using Company Cam for custom jobs
  • 26:58
    Customer service, cleanup checklists, and job photos
  • 28:38
    The Zillow postcard play for neighborhood leads
  • 33:32
    Breaking up with Angie and the shift to organic SEO leads
  • 38:30
    Don't be afraid to hire people who know more than you

Speakers

J
Josh Steinman
Owner, EJS Deck & Home Solutions (Massachusetts)
A
Alex Danner
Host; Founder, Fence and Deck Marketers

Key Takeaways

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Josh started EJS during COVID with his brother, first doing unlicensed basement-finishing work, after his wife got pregnant forced them to 'get real and make real money'; the business grew and rebranded around decks and outdoor living, now roughly 75% of the work.

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He deliberately moved off the tools to focus on sales and running the business, applying 'who not how'; every time he tried to step back he'd get pulled to a job site until he found the right foreman, ultimately changing out his entire crew within a month to reset the culture.

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Hiring friends early failed for lack of accountability, with guys on their phones, because 'it's easier to call in sick to your friend than your boss'; hiring people who actually applied and interviewed for the role worked far better.

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Delegating time-draining tasks is the roadmap to growth: adding a floating laborer with a company truck to run materials and move tool trailers freed up huge blocks of Josh's day.

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Company Cam transformed documentation and quality control; end-of-day photo checklists let him verify cleanup and progress remotely, and one deck went from 20-30 photos to 250, which also feeds the website and social media.

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A low-tech postcard play works: before each job Josh uses Zillow to target about 100 comparable-value homes nearby with a courteous 'we don't want to bother you' note plus a QR code, yielding three to six calls each mailing.

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He treats Angie / Home Advisor as a starter that helped launch the brand but is now scaling it back to a couple of wealthy zip codes as SEO delivers cheaper organic deck leads and, unlike lead services, builds a differentiated and sellable brand.

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